It’s been a surprisingly busy 2024 with a list of different GPU launches that were all announced at CES. AMD didn’t just announce the RX 7600 XT at CES however, they also introduced a new line of CPUs their Ryzen 8000G Series, and a few new SKUs in the older Ryzen 5000 Series as well for AM4 users. Today I’m going to check out two of the new 8000G Series CPUs, the Ryzen 7 8700G and Ryzen 5 8600G which will be hitting stores on the 31st. They are Zen 4 CPUs with upgraded integrated GPU capabilities including AI processing as well with an integrated NPU on both the 8700G and 8600G. Onboard graphics performance is an area that we always test and keep an eye on with included so I’m excited to see what AMD’s promise of “fastest built-in graphics in its class” will mean for actual gameplay so let’s dive in and see what they are capable of.

Product Name: AMD Ryzen 8000G Series

Review Samples Provided by: AMD

Written by: Wes Compton

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AMD Ryzen 7 8700G

AMD Ryzen 5 8600G

 

Ryzen 7 8700G

Ryzen 5 8600G

Ryzen 5 8500G

Ryzen 3 8300G

MSRP

$329

$229

$176

N/A

Architecture

Zen 4

2 x "Zen4"

4 x "Zen4c"

1 x "Zen4"

3 x "Zen4c"

# of CPU Cores

8

6

4

Multithreading (SMT)

Yes

# of Threads

16

12

8

Max. Boost Clock

Up to 5.1GHz

Up to 5.0GHz

Up to 4.9GHz

Max Zen4c Clock

N/A

Up to 3.7GHz

Up to 3.6GHz

Base Clock

4.2GHz

4.3GHz

3.5GHz

3.4GHz

Zen4c Base Clock

N/A

3.2GHz

L2 Cache

8MB

6MB

4MB

L3 Cache

16MB

8MB

Default TDP

65W

AMD Configurable TDP (cTDP)

45-65W

Processor Technology for CPU Cores

TSMC 4nm FinFET

CPU Compute Die (CCD) Size

178mm²

137mm²

Package Die Count

1

Unlocked for Overclocking

Yes

No

AMD EXPO™ Memory Overclocking Technology

Yes

Precision Boost Overdrive

Yes

Curve Optimizer Voltage Offsets

Yes

AMD Ryzen™ Master Support

Yes

CPU Socket

AM5

CPU Boost Technology

Precision Boost 2

Instruction Set

x86-64

Supported Extensions

AES, AMD-V, AVX, AVX2, AVX512, FMA3, MMX(+), SHA, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, SSSE3, x86-64

Max. Operating Temperature (Tjmax)

95°C

PCI Express® Version

PCIe® 4.0

Native PCIe® Lanes (Total/Usable)

20 / 16

20 / 16

14 / 10

14 / 10

NVMe Support

Boot, RAID0, RAID1

System Memory Type

DDR5

Memory Channels

2

Max. Memory

256GB

Graphics Capabilities

Graphics Model

AMD Radeon 780M

AMD Radeon 760M

AMD Radeon 740M

Graphics Core Count

12

8

4

Graphics Frequency

2900 MHz

2800 MHz

2600 MHz

 

 

What is the Ryzen 8000G Series

Well, you might be wondering exactly what the 8000G Series is all about and while this is the first CPUs from the 8000 Series the G lets us know that these are focused on onboard graphics performance, pairing that alongside a solid CPU as well which means that in the future you can upgrade to a dedicated GPU if needed or use the CPU in more demanding CPU applications. In AMDs presentation, they highlight the 8000G Series as the fastest desktop PC processor graphics in the world. This isn’t too big of a surprise as AMD has really been leading that area for a while. What is the most exciting thing in my eyes however is that the 700M graphics used here supports AMD HYPR-RX and Fluid Motion Frames. Those technologies help see big performance improvements and AMDs examples showed it giving a 75% performance uplift across a range of modern titles and with those demanding titles it is a way to get smooth 60+ FPS gaming WITHOUT a dedicated GPU and I don’t have to remind everyone just how much any of the video cards cost these days.  

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One of the other big features with two out of the four 8000G CPUs is the inclusion of a proper NPU for dedicated AI engine processing. AI is of course the big buzzword these days but a lot of software is integrating it. Having dedicated processing will help keep that load off of the CPU. AMD did give a nice list showing examples of some of the 100 different situations that are supported currently and you might think that you won’t need it but software like Zoom and OBS use it for effects and green screen use and a lot of non-power users would be doing those things. That doesn’t include other aspects like video, audio, and photo editing which a majority of big names there are using it in one way or another.

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So there are four new CPUs and like I mentioned before two of those (the 8700G and 8600G) support Ryzen AI. What else do they have going on? Well, there are three different levels of integrated graphics. They are all from the Radeon 700M series but the top-end Ryzen 7 8700G has 780M graphics whereas the 8600G has 760M and the 8500G and 8300G both have Radeon 740M graphics. Their presentation doesn’t show it but the 780M iGPU has 12 cores, the 760M has 8 cores, and the 740M has 4 cores which should help give a good idea of their overall performance between each other. The CPU side of things break down similar to the normal Ryzen lineups. The Ryzen 7 8700G has an 8-core CPU with 16 threads and can boost up to 5.1 GHz and has a 24MB infinity cache. The Ryzen 5 8600G has 6 cores and 12 threads with a boost clock speed of up to 5.0 GHz and has a 22MB cache. The 8500G is similar with the same core count and cache but has that lower model iGPU and doesn’t have Ryzen AI. Then the Ryzen 3 8300G has 4 cores and 8 threads with a 4.9 GHz max boost and a smaller 12 MB cache. That last one is system builder only so it won’t hit stores. All four have the same 65-watt TDP. When you see where they fit in with the rest of AMDs CPUs in the full list the 8700G is similar to the 7700X but with a lower boost and base clock speed and cache. It and the others also only support PCIe Gen 4, not Gen 5. For pricing the 8700G has a $329 suggested price, the 8600G is suggested to be $229, and then the 8500G is suggested at $176 so they have really covered a range of pricing as well. They have kept the pricing for the 8700G down under the 7700X which is selling for $349 right now.

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AMD did send over the full packaging for both the Ryzen 7 8700G and Ryzen 5 8600G and while the boxes do have that signature Ryzen grey and orange theme. They have added a highlight for Ryzen AI support on these two CPUs on the left side of the front of the box. You still get a cutout that lets you see the actual CPU as well right on the front and the Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 lines are prominent on the front with a large 5 and 7 to help let people know the pecking order here. They do have two different sized boxes though even with everything else being basically the same. That is because while they do have the same 65-watt TGP they come with different wrath coolers.

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The 8700G comes with what looks like the Wrath Spire and the 8600G has the shorter Wrath Stealth. They have the same aluminum heatsink design and come with thermal paste pre-applied. They also use the screw mount design which is so much better than using the old school plastic clips in my opinion. Of course, the larger Spire has better cooling capabilities. Really though I will still prefer running better aftermarket cooling, but getting a cooler to use at the start is always nice and really fits with the theme of the 8000G Series where you get the best possible integrated graphics but also get CPUs capable of taking advantage of a dedicated GPU later on.

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All of the new CPUs are AM5 which means they don’t have pins. The heatspreader design has that unique X with a plus sign shape and they do have the AMD Ryzen branding laser etched in a large font across the top of the heatspreader. It also has the model number and manufacturing information as well as the serial number and more.

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Before getting into testing I did want to point out that AMD did send over a motherboard to go with the two CPUs for testing as well as a memory kit. I would normally test on our ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Hero but they went with a few specific boards just to make sure members of the press had the correct BIOS ahead of the launch. They sent the MSI B650 Gaming Plus Wifi and really that is a more appropriate motherboard to go with these CPUs. The memory kit was similar to what I ran on our AM5 testbench the G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 6400 MHz, our normal kit is a 6000 MHz non-RGB version of the same kit.

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Test Rig and Procedures

 

Test System

Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI - Live Pricing

Cooling: Enermax LIQMAXFLO 360- Live Pricing

Noctua NT-H1 Thermal Paste - Live Pricing

Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5 16GBx2 6400MHz - Live Pricing

Storage: Kingston FURY Renegade 2TB PCIe 4.0 SSD- Live Pricing

Video Card: Nvidia RTX 4090 FE - Live Pricing

Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power Pro 13 1600W- Live Pricing

Case: Primochill Wetbench - Live Pricing

OS: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit - Live Pricing

 

CPU Testing Procedures

Blender

Using the official benchmark using 3.6

Handbrake

Tested using 2d 4k 60 FPS version, resized using the Fast 1080p30 preset, average FPS used. Here is the file download location http://bbb3d.renderfarming.net/download.html

Cinebench R20

CPU and CPU (Single Core results)

Cinebench R23

CPU and CPU (Single Core results)

Cinebench 2024

Multi and Single Core tests

POV-Ray

Using built-in benchmark. Settings are all set to the "Standard Benchmark Switches" listed on http://www.povray.org/download/benchmark.php

V-Ray Benchmark 1.0.8

CPU Benchmark time used as the score

V-Ray Benchmark 5.0.2

vsamples score

CPUz

CPUz's built-in benchmark on 17.01.64 version, both single and multi-core scores

wPrime

1024M Setting, core count set to the number of threads the CPU has

7-Zip

Built-in benchmark set to 32MB, which runs 10 passes. Combined MIPS, Compressing, and Decompressing scores were all used. Just the Current result, not the resulting

JetStream 2 - BrowserBench

Core from website test using Chrome https://browserbench.org/JetStream2.0/

Passmark

CPU Mark Score with Passmark 10 and the newer Passmark Performance Test 11 as well

Crossmark

Benchmark from BapCo using Revision 1.2 documenting the overall score

PCMark 10

Normal test ran, not the express or extended

Procyon

Office productivity benchmark is done with the current Microsoft Office 365, Photo Editing Benchmark is done with Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom Classic.  All products are running on the latest version at the time of testing

Dolphin 5.0 Benchmark

This benchmark runs automatically and at the end gives you a time result in seconds https://bit.ly/2dpa9n3

3DMark

Fire Strike - Physics Score – Performance benchmark, Time Spy - CPU Score, and CPU Profile test

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands

Built-in Benchmark, 1080p, High detail setting

Team Fortress 2

1080p – high, very high, high, reflect world, high, enabled, 8x msaa, x16, multicore on. TF2 version is locked to previous version that supports older replay files currently until this issue is fixed   https://bit.ly/2vOebin

Dirt 5

Built-in benchmark, running at 1080p on all three resolution settings, V-Sync is turned off, dynamic resolution is turned off, and on the medium detail setting

Far Cry 6

1080p with High Detail setting using the built-in benchmark

Shadow of the Tomb Raider

Built-in benchmark, 1080p, high detail setting, RTX/DLSS Off

Metro Exodus

Default benchmark with High profile which has 1080p and high detail

Watch Dogs Legion

Built in benchmark, 1080p, dx12, low detail

Borderlands 3

Built-in benchmark. fullscreen, 1080p, medium quality, dx11

Power Usage

Idle and load testing using a Kill-A-Watt and wPrime to put the CPU under load and again with the AIDA64 FPU CPU workload

Temps

Aida64 FPU stability test to load and record temperature readings

AIDA64

Memory, Cache, and FLOPS testing done with built-in GPGPU and Memory benchmarks

 

Onboard Testing Procedures

3DMark

Fire Strike and Time Spy benchmarks GPU score not the overall score

Unigine Superposition

720p Low and 1080p Medium settings

Team Fortress 2

1080p – high, very high, high, reflect world, high, enabled, 8x msaa, x16, multicore on.   https://bit.ly/2vOebin

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands

Built-in Benchmark, 1080p, Low detail setting

Tomb Raider

Adrenaline Action Benchmark Tool on the “Medium” quality setting at 1080p

Hitman: Absolution

Adrenaline Action Benchmark Tool on the “Medium” quality setting at 1080p

Borderlands 3

In-Game benchmark, 1080p, Low detail preset

Far Cry 5

1080p, Lowest Detail setting, In-game benchmark

Shadow of the Tomb Raider

1080p, Low Detail setting, In-game benchmark, RTX/DLSS off

 

cpuz 1  cpuz 2

cpuz 3  cpuz 4

cpuz 5  cpuz 6

cpuz 7  cpuz 8

 


CPU Performance

To start testing off I went with a rendering-focused benchmark with the always popular Blender. This software is always updating and with that the benchmark changes as well so I have run with a few versions here simply because with the latest 4.0 version I haven’t had the chance to get more CPUs on the bench to compare against the 8700G and 8600G. I have all three tests stacked together so we can see an overall of them altogether. Blender loves the higher core counts but clock speed does still make a difference. But how did the two new CPUs perform? Well In Belnder 3.4 and 3.6 the combined results put the 8700Gjust under the 7700 and 7700X which is about where I would expect it to be. The 8600G is farther down the chart of course and is at the bottom of the CPUs tested below the Ryzen 5 7600 on both.

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Continuing with the video encoding theme I also have Handbrake which is an open-source transcoder. For this test I am taking a 4k video down to 1080p 30 FPS, the results are the average FPS of that task. The 8700G at 103.5 FPS is right behind the 7700 and the 7800X3D. The 8600G is behind the 7600 as well as behind a few of the old high core count Intel’s from the older enthusiast platform that would run alongside of the Xeon line. This puts it ahead of CPUs like the i9-11900K and 10900K which were monsters when they came out.

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For the always popular Cinebench, I am testing with the older Cinebench R20 and R23 as well as the new 2024 edition as well. I always like Cinebench because we have multi-core and single-core performance which gives us a good look at the performance of the whole CPU and IPC performance. In R20 on the multi-core test, the 8700G is again right behind the Ryzen 7 7700. The 8600G on the other hand is a little farther down with its lower core count but still did well sitting behind the Ryzen 5 7600. For their single core results in R20, they are both up farther in the chart with the 8700G being slightly higher and right with the 7800X3X and the 8600G just behind the 7600. In R23 the 8700G is behind the 7700 on both multicore and single-core tests. The 8600G with its 13617 score is just behind the Ryzen 5 7600. Then in the latest 2024 test, the 8700G scored a 978 which I know I sound like a broken record but put it right behind the 7700 and the 788 for the 8600G put it at the bottom of the chart behind the 7600.

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Next up we have ray tracing-focused rendering benchmarks. Here I tested the CPUs in POV-Ray and V-Ray including the newer V-Ray Benchmark 5. POV-Ray was also tested with a single core and across all of the cores. The 8700G scored a 6151 for the multi-core POV-Ray score putting it behind the 7800X3D and similar on its single-core score. The 8600G on the other hand was down farther at 4858 behind the 5700X and the 7600. In the older V-Ray 1.0.8, the 8700G came in at 48 seconds, with the 7800X3D being the closest modern CPU there and the 7700 just ahead of that. The 8600G on the other hand at 61 seconds was tied with the 5700X and just behind the 7600. In the newer V-Ray Benchmark 5, the 8700G scored 12488 which put it behind the 7700 with a big gap between the two, and the 8600G scored a 9842 putting it at the bottom of the chart behind the 10900K.

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I also tested using the CPUz’s built-in benchmark which does run on a single thread and with all threads. In the multi-thread test, the 8700G scored 7274 putting it right behind the 7800X3D again. The 8600G on the other hand with its 6 cores was lower with a 5550 putting it behind the 5700X and 7600. For single-core results, the 8600Ga and 8700G are a lot closer. The 690.5 for the 8700G is behind the 11900K and not far behind the 7800X3D. The 8600G had a 666.3 which puts it behind the 8700G.

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Next, we have wPrime which is a classic overclocking benchmark that calculates pi out to 1024 million digits and is timed. This is a multi-thread heavy test which has the older high-core count CPUs still all over the top of the charts and you can see that with the top CPUs sitting at 8 or more cores. The 8700G with its 8 cores came in with a 70.999 putting it behind the 7700 but ahead of the 11900K. The 8600G took 14 seconds longer with its 84.242 score putting it ahead of the Ryzen 5 7600.

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7 Zip is another open-source program, this time for compressing and decompressing all of your files. Here I have run the benchmark and we have three results. The combined MIPS is a combination of compressing and decompressing performance. Then I have it broken down between the two. The combined results have the 8700G with a score of 115786 which was surprisingly good, putting it up ahead of the Ryzen 9 7900 and behind the 13600K. The 8600G also did well with a 90660 putting it ahead of the 7700X. The split results show the same thing and show that both CPUs favored the decompressing test with that ahead on both whereas most CPUs favor the compression test.

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Jetstream 2 is a compilation benchmark that takes a long list of HTML5 and Java in-browser tests and runs them all three times and puts together an overall score. I love this benchmark because let's be honest, most people are using their browser more than any other game or program. Jetstream gives some interesting results sometimes though but it tends to prefer high IPC or single-core performance and there are some situations where it prefers lower core-count CPUs. The 8700G and 8600G are a great example of where this test doesn’t always care about the highest-end CPUs, both scored right up in the top end behind the 7950X3D.

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For Passmark Performance Test I used the latest version, Performance Test 11 and also tested with the older Performance Test 10 as well. I only look at the overall CPU score which takes a few different synthetic benchmarks and combines the results to put together an overall score. This is a test that does favor multi-threaded performance over IPC. In Performance Test 10 the 8700G came in behind the 7700, no surprises there, and the 8600G was just behind the 5700X and 7600, again no surprises. In Performance Test 11 the 8700G is just behind the 7800X3D and the 7700. The 8600G is down at the bottom of the chart behind the 7600 and the 12600K.

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Crossmark is from BAPCo which also makes SYSmark and this is a cross-platform test where you can compare performance between phones and both Windows and Mac computers. This is the start of our overall PC benchmarks and Crossmark uses a mix of real-world tests to output an overall score. The 8700G scored an 1840 which wasn’t as high as I expected it to be. This put it down below the 7600. The 8600G which is normally behind the 7600 wasn’t far behind, putting it ahead of the 12600K but behind the 8700G.

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PCMark 10 is a great test because it tests things like video calls, browser performance, Excel, and Word performance to give an idea of real-world performance. It tends to like higher clock speeds but does take raw core count into account as well which you can see. The Ryzen 7 8700G scored a 9516 here which put it right up in the top section of our chart ahead of the 7800X3D and behind the 13900K. The 8600G was down a little lower with its score of 9134 but this is still up in the top group in front of the 7950X even.

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We recently added even more real-world testing with the UL Procyon Benchmarks which are as real-world as they can get using the actual programs that you would use in each test. There are two overall benchmarks, first is the Office Productivity Benchmark which uses Microsoft Office 365 to test actual performance in Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Outlook. The second benchmark is the Photo Editing Benchmark which is run using the latest version of Photoshop as well as Lightroom Classic to look at photo editing performance. I have both scores stacked together to get an overall look at the performance. The Ryzen 7 8700G has a combined score of 16368 and the 8600G 15479, both are right next to each other here sitting behind the 12600K and ahead of the older 5600X.

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Moving the focus over towards gaming my next test is using Dolphin 5.0 Benchmark. Dolphin 5.0 is a Wii emulator and like most emulators, it doesn’t care about high core counts at all. In fact, it only runs two in total. Clock speeds are king here most of the time which is why all of the 5 GHz+ CPUs are at the top of the chart here. The 8700G took 202 seconds to run the test putting it just behind the 7700. The 8600G took 216 seconds isn’t too far behind the 8700G, at 216 seconds it is behind the 7800X3D.

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Before diving into game testing I wanted to check out synthetic performance using 3DMark. I tested with the older DX11 Fire Strike test as well as the newer DX12 Time Spy. I also added the new 3DMark CPU Profile benchmark into the mix as well which does a good job of showing the full range of thread counts that you might see being used in games as well as a max threads option that does everything above 16 threads. In the Fire Strike test, the 8700G scored a 31027 in the Fire Strike test putting it behind the 7800X3D which has a big gap between the two. The 8600G is down closer to the middle of the chart sitting ahead of the 5600X and a few CPUs behind the Ryzen 7600. In Time Spy the results are similar but with a smaller gap between the 8700G and the 7800X3D, same with the 8600G and the 7600. In the 3Dmark CPU profile, the 8700G and 8600G hold their own in the early low thread count tests because of their high clock speeds. The 8600G does start to drop off at 8 threads and ends up behind the 7500X in the end. The 8700G does better but ends up behind the 7800X3D once again.  

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I did of course test the two new CPUs in games as well. I will dive into testing the integrated GPU in the next section. Here though they are paired up with a powerful GPU (the RTX 4090) and I compare CPU to CPU performance. In TF2 where we have a lot of CPUs tested, the game is CPU limited so the difference between the CPUs is a little more obvious. The 8700G came in at 216 FPS sitting behind the Ryzen 5 7600. The 8600G is just 7 FPS below that and sits between the older 5700X and 5600X there. When we get into some of the other games the 8600G is done at the bottom or near the bottom in a lot of the games trading places with the 12600K often. The 8700G did better but is still in the bottom half in most of the games except for Borderlands 3.

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Last up I also run a few tests in AIDA64, these take a look at cache performance for L1, L2, and L3 cache as well as memory speeds, Precision FLOPS, and Integer IOPS. With the larger cache size, the Ryzen 7 8700G performed a lot better in the cache tests than the Ryzen 5 8600G did. The 6400 MHz G.Skill memory used helped in the memory speed tests as well whereas the other AM5 Ryzen CPUs were all tested with 6000 MHz memory.

AIDA64

L1 Cache Read

L1 Cache Write

L1 Cache Latency

L2 Cache Read

L2 Cache Write

L2 Cache Latency

L3 Cache Read

L3 Cache Write

L3 Cache Latency

GB/s

GB/s

ns

GB/s

GB/s

ns

GB/s

GB/s

ns

AMD Ryzen R7 2700X

999.43

502.5

1

978.03

495.12

2.8

414.95

417.71

8.8

AMD Ryzen R5 2600X

768.13

388.05

1

729.37

366.01

2.9

429.09

323.83

9.1

Ryzen 5 2400G

485.01

238.29

1

459.8

232.2

3.1

222.96

181.6

9.6

Ryzen 3 2200G

460.55

227.41

1.1

352.84

177.56

3.3

137.3

171.2

10.2

Intel i7-8700K

1595.6

803.65

0.9

640.37

397.14

2.6

337

213.67

11

Intel i5-8400

1417.2

710.79

1

543.81

352.9

3.1

270.89

186.82

13

Intel Core i9-7980XE

3758.3

1896.7

1.1

1671.7

1069.9

5.6

229.61

118.4

21

Intel Core i9-7960X

3532.3

1785.2

1

1571.6

1003.5

5.1

220.22

121.04

19.8

Intel Core i7-7820X

1969.9

995.02

1

884.63

574.74

5.6

114.4

103.57

19.2

Intel Core i5-7640X

1044.8

31888

1

397.26

247

2.9

228.31

163.86

11.1

Intel Core i9-7900X

2418.5

709.16

1

1037.3

521.94

5.2

124.16

106.78

21.2

Intel Core i7-7740X

1102.7

561.25

0.9

424.55

304.3

2.7

287.01

186.67

21.2

Intel i7-6900K

1963.9

999.59

1

710.28

310.34

4.1

243.96

195.41

14.6

Intel i7-7700K

1114.6

560.82

0.9

415.45

285.97

2.7

234.5

188.7

10.4

Intel i7-5960X

1748.5

874.6

1.2

623.08

272.77

3.5

260.72

184.92

15.3

AMD Ryzen R7 1800X

917.46

460.16

1.1

831.95

446.37

4.7

388.18

386.01

12.4

AMD Ryzen R7 1700X

867.89

435.33

1.2

809.29

419.38

5

369.75

350.31

12.9

AMD Ryzen R7 1700

793.9

398.12

1.3

742.92

389.73

5.4

334.36

332.12

14.2

AMD Ryzen R5 1600X

689.47

345.95

1.1

630.99

334.93

4.7

386.48

326.86

12.3

AMD Ryzen R5 1500X

446.84

224.01

1.1

306.82

211.58

11.8

306.82

211.58

11.8

AMD Ryzen R5 2600

685.38

344.05

1

669.28

333.5

3.1

381.16

320.56

9.8

AMD Ryzen R7 2700X

849.91

426.09

1

837.76

418.75

3

357.51

356.71

9.4

Intel i7-8086K

1596.4

803.56

0.9

623.36

423.53

2.6

380.04

243.73

10.9

Intel i9-9900K

2375.6

1195.4

0.8

907.65

626.34

2.4

302.01

221.1

11

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X

3098.6

1551.4

0.9

1545.3

1416.8

2.8

1014.4

836.39

11.5

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

2133.2

1072.9

0.9

1069.1

993.49

2.8

611.53

573.21

10.2

AMD Ryzen 5 3600X

1547.4

779.24

1

777.62

745.3

2.8

584.93

538.45

10.4

AMD Ryzen 3 3400G

508.97

253.87

1

490.26

247.04

3

233.57

193.62

9.3

AMD Ryzen 3 3300X

1080.5

541.5

0.9

541.84

530.5

2.7

322.13

321.33

11.1

AMD Ryzen 3 3100

965.85

484.67

1

485.55

460.71

3.1

374.11

343.53

11.8

Intel i5-10600K

1676.6

840.87

0.8

662.98

452.67

2.5

361.35

238.47

10.5

Intel i9-10900K

3162.1

1586.7

0.8

1201.8

759.97

2.4

407.66

245.94

11.4

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X

1721.4

869.69

0.9

851.89

831.97

2.6

276.24

298.84

11

Intel i9-11900K

4542.8

2299.3

1

1413.2

691.62

2.5

330.32

213.28

11.4

Intel i5-11600K

3412.3

1724.9

1

960.91

526.76

2.7

319.1

198.57

11.4

Intel i9-12900K

2310

1438.7

1

1233.5

562.72

2.9

678.84

418.11

19.8

Intel i5-12600K

1461.1

971.78

1.1

846.4

360.51

3.2

598.86

292.09

21.4

AMD Ryzen 5 4500

1561.9

784.1

1

785.34

751.61

2.9

350.05

571.19

10.5

AMD Ryzen 5 5600

1646.6

831.24

0.9

832.43

767.22

2.7

445.8

437.73

11.9

AMD Ryzen 7 5700X

2267.8

1157.8

0.9

1147.6

1026.1

2.6

501.53

526.11

11.5

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X

2722.9

1381

0.7

1361.1

1305.1

2.7

887.95

901.2

10.1

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X

1996.3

1019.3

0.7

1020.9

999.93

2.6

847.43

847.61

10.5

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X

5252.2

2685

0.7

2615.6

2588.4

2.6

1293.7

1357.3

9.9

AMD Ryzen 9 7900X

4042.4

2051.4

0.7

2008.5

1956.3

2.5

1278.6

1394.1

9.8

Intel i9-13900K

2005.7

872.39

0.9

2280.2

851.63

3.7

1729.2

619.38

18.3

Intel i5-13600K

3218.4

1472.5

1.1

1156

479.87

4.5

907.63

406.76

14.9

AMD Ryzen 9 7900

3839.2

2023.6

0.7

1925.5

1865.1

2.7

1146

1046.4

10.3

AMD Ryzen 7 7700

2630.8

1333.7

0.8

1336.2

1298.2

2.9

826.97

879.08

10.4

AMD Ryzen 5 7600

1898

963.23

0.8

964.63

946.49

2.9

698.77

690.84

10.8

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D

4734.9

2518.4

0.8

2558.7

2422.3

2.7

1314.4

1376.8

12.5

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D

2342.7

1239.1

0.8

1252.6

1171.8

3.1

674.02

703.18

12.8

AMD Ryzen 7 8700G

2350.8

1228

0.8

1230.7

1219.8

2.8

867.87

893.95

11.4

AMD Ryzen 5 8600G

1777.2

930.44

0.8

941.76

941.91

2.9

721.29

702.59

10.7

 

AIDA64

Memory Read

Memory Write

Memory Latency

Single-Precision FLOPS

Double Precision FLOPS

AES-256

24-bit Integer IOPS

32-bit Integer IOPS

64-bit Integer IOPS

MB/s

MB/s

ns

GFLOPS

GFLOPS

MB/s

GIOPS

GIOPS

GIOPS

AMD Ryzen R7 2700X

50214

48578

65

507.9

253.9

70514

127.7

127.7

64.22

AMD Ryzen R5 2600X

50273

48346

65.5

383.2

191.4

51932

95.82

95.82

48.15

Ryzen 5 2400G

45967

47850

66.6

235.9

117.8

32388

58.94

58.98

29.67

Ryzen 3 2200G

35567

36240

118.4

225.8

112.6

27603

56.32

56.32

28.3

Intel i7-8700K

38421

40175

57.9

825

412.5

29406

370

370

51.55

Intel i5-8400

38096

40549

59.8

728.8

364.5

25192

323.5

323.5

45.55

Intel Core i9-7980XE

77004

68888

73.4

1831

915.5

69377

821.2

821.3

121.6

Intel Core i9-7960X

79416

71554

74.9

1681

840.6

65409

754

753.9

114.7

Intel Core i7-7820X

76049

73759

71.6

944.9

472.5

36420

423.7

423.7

63.85

Intel Core i5-7640X

30786

31888

68.5

536.5

268.2

18547

238.1

138.1

33.53

Intel Core i9-7900X

76856

72856

72.8

1148

574.5

45506

515.1

515

79.76

Intel Core i7-7740X

38455

40596

53.2

575.4

287.8

20503

258.1

258

35.97

Intel i7-6900K

66786

68130

61.9

1023

511.7

36340

255.9

255.9

63.96

Intel i7-7700K

38498

40448

52.7

575.7

287.9

20519

258

258

35.98

Intel i7-5960X

66108

49545

62.8

895.5

447.7

31783

223.9

223.9

55.97

AMD Ryzen R7 1800X

44031

43425

81.8

472.4

236.2

64016

118.1

118.1

59.03

AMD Ryzen R7 1700X

44493

43749

78.3

446.8

223.4

61730

111.7

111.7

55.84

AMD Ryzen R7 1700

45343

43777

82.6

408.5

204.3

56811

102.1

102.1

51.05

AMD Ryzen R5 1600X

44452

43918

83.7

354.9

177.5

49340

88.74

88.73

44.34

AMD Ryzen R5 1500X

44289

43746

83.1

229.8

114.8

31983

57.43

57.45

28.72

AMD Ryzen R5 2600

50385

48499

66.5

351

175.4

48939

88.03

88.02

44.01

AMD Ryzen R7 2700

50088

48343

65.9

434.3

217.2

60336

108.6

108.6

54.68

Intel i7-8086K

39069

40675

56.2

824.9

412.5

29397

369.9

369.9

51.55

Intel i9-9900K

39682

41015

51.1

1226

613

45542

550

549.8

79.79

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X

53981

52271

70.7

1546

772.1

106943

385.7

385.7

96.57

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

51498

28739

67.3

1078

537.8

74474

271

271.2

67.77

AMD Ryzen 5 3600X

50769

28736

68.9

799.5

400

55456

198.6

198.6

49.64

AMD Ryzen 3 3400G

49936

53502

67.1

257.2

128.5

35736

64.16

64.16

32.25

AMD Ryzen 3 3300X

51435

28743

66.4

551.6

276.1

38176

138.7

138.7

34.65

AMD Ryzen 3 3100

50246

28734

71.1

497.6

248.7

34946

124.4

124.4

31.09

Intel i5-10600K

43340

43430

48.2

863.8

431.9

30782

387.2

386.9

53.99

Intel i9-10900K

44972

43808

50.5

1632

815.7

58163

731.3

731.2

102

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X

50972

28772

59.2

891.9

445.8

61623

709.6

709.7

55.72

Intel i9-11900K

44919

43343

51.8

1068

534.2

164966

547

547

182.7

Intel i5-11600K

43953

43468

55.6

838.7

419.4

123767

429.3

429.3

143.4

Intel i9-12900K

71418

72395

82

695.7

247.9

140499

400.6

400.6

166.2

Intel i5-12600K

65416

71336

87.8

432.5

216.2

86470

252.7

252.7

96.22

AMD Ryzen 5 4500

52683

53191

82.8

806

402.6

56578

201.5

201.3

50.35

AMD Ryzen 5 5600

48444

28753

70.9

853.2

426.2

107839

675.8

679.6

53.38

AMD Ryzen 7 5700X

47858

28760

68.2

1158

577.9

137459

919.1

912.9

74.38

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X

58755

80120

70

1392

694.6

192730

1205

1205

602.4

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X

54720

80771

69.5

1046

523.1

147661

912.5

912.5

456.4

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X

67342

76712

69

2735

1364

379510

2370

2370

1184

AMD Ryzen 9 7900X

68064

78123

67.7

2062

1029

288134

1792

1789

895.4

Intel i9-13900K

76006

68902

86.1

2238

1116

157028

831.4

831.4

270.6

Intel i5-13600K

64721

62311

97.2

1294

647

86637

509.5

509.4

136.4

AMD Ryzen 9 7900

73968

73494

69.4

2007

998.7

267499

1710

1709

855.9

AMD Ryzen 7 7700

58694

79929

68.9

1369

684.7

185084

1192

1192

594.3

AMD Ryzen 5 7600

59454

81467

69.6

988.6

494.3

140625

861.9

861.2

431.2

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D

77677

80314

68.1

2619

1311

178269

2239

2239

1120

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D

65343

81313

71.9

1241

620.3

89694

1076

1076

538.3

AMD Ryzen 7 8700G

75149

99082

74.5

1277

638.1

88895

1108

1108

554.1

AMD Ryzen 5 8600G

75418

99134

71.6

969.3

484.6

69303

842.7

843.2

421.4

 

 


Onboard Video Performance

While CPU performance is important, especially if you plan on upgrading one of the 800G Series CPUs with a dedicated GPU in the future. It’s onboard video performance that I’m the most excited to see with these, without that why not go with one of the other Ryzen CPUs? I always keep an eye on onboard performance though, even with some of the other CPUs that wouldn’t make sense for you to plan on using it long term so we do already have a test suite in place for checking it out. You will notice that all of the tests are a big step down from what you would see in any video card or base CPU tests, that is because even with a solid integrated GPU the expectation is still 1080p with low settings. The goal here is to be able to play the games in general, not get high detail or resolutions though AMD does have Hyper-RX with fluid motion to help as well. Most of these are looking at base performance however for a direct comparison with other iGPUs. First up is checking out a few tests in 3DMark. Specifically the older Fire Strike benchmark and the newer Time Spy which is DX12. I only used the graphics score, not the total score to take the CPU performance out of the equation as much as possible. These are also a great way to compare results with any of the dedicated GPUs as well. One thing is for sure, the 8700G and 8600G really messed up the scale of our charts here with them both being more than double and almost triple as fast as any of the other CPUs tested here. It’s the same on both tests but really does show just how far AMD has come along here from the 2400G to the 8700G with us missing out on coverage on CPUs like the 5700G which might bridge that gap slightly.

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While in 3DMark I did also run the newer Speed Way benchmark on both CPUs just for future reference on the future-looking test that includes more ray tracing and higher detail levels. Without any point of reference it is hard to see where they fit, but just know this test would most likely just not run on most of the other CPUs tested in the past. Comparing this to dedicated GPU results the new 7600 XT scored a 1916, Nvidia’s RTX 3050 is 1465, and the older RX 6500 XT scored just a 180 when I tried to run it on this. I also tested with the 3DMark AMD FSR Feature test which compares performance with FSR 2 on and off. I did the test at 1080p with the detail quality set at quality which if I were gaming I might actually run it here on a higher quality but you can see how with both CPUs it gives a huge performance improvement. Taking an unplayable 18 FPS up to 32 FPS which is playable but not smooth.

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In Unigine Superposition I ran the 1080p medium detail and 720p low detail tests and while not to the same extreme as we saw in 3DMark the Ryzen 7 8700G and Ryzen 5 8600G are both way out in front of the rest of the CPUs here, doubling the scores in both the 1080 Medium detail setting and 720p low detail tests.

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Then from there on, I jumped into game tests. Some of our tests are older games but I did also add in a few newer games as well to get an idea of newer games when tested at 1080p and low or medium settings. With most of the results, you can once again see the 8700G and 8600G way out in front of the rest of the CPUs. In games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider, this has the 8700G at a nice and playable 60 FPS, same with Borderlands 3. Those are older games of course but it does show that even before getting into Hyper-RX these are capable and in those situations utilizing the tools that AMD is offering you could start to turn the detail up as well. In F1 22 which is a newer game even without FSR 1 both were over 80 FPS when playing at medium detail, not even the lowest detail. Turning FSR 1 on put them up into a higher refresh rate range which is really noticeable on the F1 games. TF2 is the only game that isn’t showing that big of an improvement but this is also the oldest of the games tested and shows just how CPU-limited the game is, there is an improvement but it is only enough to put the two CPUs up at the top not way out in front.

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Power Usage and Temperatures

For some people, performance is the only thing important, but for others, power usage and temperatures also play a role so we do take a look at both of those as well. This is especially important in SFF or even just smaller mid-sized builds and it affects the components you need to get for your system as well as your PSU and cooler. To take a look at power usage I ran three different tests. I noted the idle power draw of our entire system then I took a look at the load wattage of the system using two different workloads. One was wPrime and the second was AIDA64 using their FPU workload which is extremely demanding. At idle the testbench with the Ryzen 7 8700G pulled 77.4 watts and with the Ryzen 5 8600G it pulled 78.8, really a wash between the two but this is more than what I’ve seen on older Intel CPUs but a big improvement over some of the highest end Ryzen CPUs. The 7950X in our launch testing was pulling 114 watts on a similar configuration. The first under-load power test was when running wPrime and we see that wattage goes up from the high 70’s up to 169 for the 8700G and 158 for the 8600G. They do have the same listed TGP but the lower core count CPU does pull a little less here. This was better than with the 7700X and 7700, AMD has continued to improve on this with the closest of the 7000 Series Ryzen CPUs being the 7600 which pulled 173. Using AIDA64’s FPU stress test does normally change the total wattage usage but it didn’t change things for the 8700G which was already at its TGP so it stayed at 169 watts. The 8600G however did pull more here and went up to 169 watts to match the 6700G.

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I’ve spoken in the past about how temperature testing isn’t an end all be all result. CPU to CPU with the same CPU can be different and that gets even more complicated once you add in different motherboards and BIOS revisions as well. Not to mention different coolers. In this case, both the 8700G and 8600G were tested using a 360 mm AIO water cooler and in the same situation. I even ran this test multiple times with the same results. Our results are going to be a little confusing though. The 8700G came in at 66c each time I tested it whereas the 8600G shows 80c. They pull the same wattage when using AIDA64’s Stress test so there isn’t any reason for those results to be far far apart but they are. With that, there isn’t any good reason to compare them with the other CPUs as we don’t know which result is accurate but I did want to at least address it here.

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Overall and Final Verdict

With the testing out of the way, we can finally step back and get a better idea of where the Ryzen 7 8700G and Ryzen 5 8600G are sitting right now. AMD’s new 8000G Series CPUs pair up Zen 4 CPUs with their Radeon 700M series of mobile GPUs with the goal being to create a desktop APU that is capable of some gaming without having to pair it up with a dedicated GPU and they have done just that. The Ryzen 7 8700G has the same Radeon 780M GPU that is used with the Ryzen Z1 in devices like the ROG Ally so we already knew it was capable. The performance fits what you would expect for a handheld console as well with it being capable at 1080p on the lowest settings and when utilizing tech like AMDs Hyper-RX you can see smooth gameplay at higher detail settings as well. This isn’t going to be a replacement for a dedicated GPU if you are looking to game at higher resolutions or if you want the highest detail settings in all of the latest games. But it is great to see an integrated GPU that is capable enough that you can trust it to handle mid-level 1080p gaming. The best part with that is you can build a system using this and leave the possibility of upgrading in the future open whereas with the mobile applications, you would be locked in.

Speaking of, the 8700G and 8600G were both capable CPUs when paired up with a dedicated GPU. In my testing, the Ryzen 5 8600G was consistently running just behind the 7600 and the 5700X. The 8700G with its higher boost clock speed and 8 cores was a little faster and running behind the 7700. So you won’t have to worry if you will be held back with an upgrade in the future. For pricing the Ryzen 7 8700G has an MSRP of $329 and the Ryzen 5 8600G is cheaper at $229. Both end up being a really good value once you figure in the cost of buying even a low-end video card and that is ignoring that AMD has also integrated AI processing into these as well. But with that said, if you are looking at picking either CPU up and pairing it up with a GPU you would be better served going with a model with less of a focus on the integrated GPU. The 8700G consistently performed just under the Ryzen 7 7700 which can be found for $315. The 8600G is priced similarly to the 7600 and it came in just behind consistently as well. But overall AMD set out to pair up capable CPUs with integrated graphics that are usable for gaming and that were extremely successful at that. These will be at the top of my recommendation list for anyone who wants light gaming capabilities at 1080p, once you take out the cost of an expensive video card you have a great value build with room to upgrade in the future.

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