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22 Mar 2012 17:00 #24105 by garfi3ld
ITS LIVE!

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22 Mar 2012 17:01 #24104 by garfi3ld
Replied by garfi3ld on topic Nvidia GTX 680 Kepler

titleYou have all seen and heard the rumors for months now about Nvidia’s upcoming GPU code named Kepler. When we got the call that Nvidia was inviting editors out to San Francisco to show us what they have been working on we jumped at the chance to finally put the rumors to rest and see what they really had up their sleeve. Today we can finally tell you all the gory details and dig into the performance of Nvidia’s latest flagship video card. Will it be the fastest single GPU card in the world? We finally find out!

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22 Mar 2012 17:41 - 22 Mar 2012 17:46 #24106 by Dreyvas
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Awesome. EVGA step-up process initiated. :)
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22 Mar 2012 17:44 #24107 by L0rdG1gabyt3
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When I saw that this was up, a tear formed in my eye! When I saw that the leaked specs and performance numbers were just about spot on, I laughed triumphantly! When I saw the MSRP, I just about messed my pants!

This WILL be my next video card. (And it makes it easier for me to pitch it to my wife with such a low price!)

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22 Mar 2012 20:04 #24112 by Wingless92
I would wait for the 4gb cards. Might as well, double the frame buffer is always a good idea.

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22 Mar 2012 20:16 #24113 by Myndmelt
Replied by Myndmelt on topic Re: Nvidia GTX 680 Kepler
They are doing a Live review over at pcper.com/live right now.

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22 Mar 2012 20:26 - 22 Mar 2012 20:28 #24115 by Reaper
Replied by Reaper on topic Re: Nvidia GTX 680 Kepler
I think I'll be picking one of these cards up. Time to let my esteemed 5870 rotate to my next lowest system. Thanks for posting your review.

Wingless92 wrote: I would wait for the 4gb cards. Might as well, double the frame buffer is always a good idea.


I don't argue with concept of double anything being bad, but the frame buffer is a bit misleading... Let's say you have a full 1080p eyefinity setup going (which obviously you won't have eyefinity with nVidia... but for discussion sake)... the resolution is 5760 x 1080 x 3 (24-bit color depth, you'll never have an alpha channel streamed) = ~17.8 MB. Most games, at best support triple-buffering, so ~54 MB. Your vertex shader inputs are going to cumulatively be more than that.

In general the only real thing you're effecting by increasing VRAM these days is how many texture maps you can fit in RAM. A ridiculous maximum texture size (8192 x 8192 x 4) still only amounts to ~333 MB of VRAM, even when mipmapped.

Just saying there's no practical reason (that I can determine) not to go ahead with one of these cards in case anyone else is on the fence.
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22 Mar 2012 20:54 #24116 by Wingless92
When I had my Surround setup I know if I would have had another 3gb EVGA Classified card I would have seen better FPS with the bigger frame buffer. The game would run better with the more that it can load into the buffer. Also, now that i'm on a 30in 2560x1600 panel its still pushing the GPU's really hard. Once the 580's come down I'm going to do a third.

With everything cranked to the max in Alan Wake I am seeing right around 60FPS.

Sure, if you are on a 1080p monitor, then this is overkill. Save the cash and buy something less powerful. These cards are meant for multiple displays or 30in panels. Other than Battlefield 3 no one is playing intensive games. Most people play LoL, TF2 and DOTA2. You don't need a 680 to run these games. A 560Ti would be fine. If I had a lower end card I would be looking for the new 660Ti whenever that comes out.

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22 Mar 2012 21:04 #24117 by garfi3ld
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wait your looking for more than 60FPS? Whats the point in that :-P

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22 Mar 2012 21:08 #24118 by Wingless92
I was happy with that. Before the 1.04 patch it would only do 30FPS.

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22 Mar 2012 22:20 #24119 by jj_Sky5000
The price is the most shocking & they have left the door open as well, with teh lower power consumption!!!! I think i will be adding Keplers to my collection!!!

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22 Mar 2012 22:41 #24120 by Reaper
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Wingless92 wrote: When I had my Surround setup I know if I would have had another 3gb EVGA Classified card I would have seen better FPS with the bigger frame buffer. The game would run better with the more that it can load into the buffer. Also, now that i'm on a 30in 2560x1600 panel its still pushing the GPU's really hard. Once the 580's come down I'm going to do a third.

Hrm... you'd need to clarify that all up for me before I'd give a real serious reply but just quickly and to keep it all in context of what I was sayin' earlier, a frame buffer has zero to do with frame rate on today's graphics cards due to its negligible size - it's a small drop in a huge bucket. The (primary) frame buffer is a static reserved area in VRAM based upon the currently selected monitor resolution and color depth. The GPU streams the frame buffer to the monitor (or monitors) once per VSYNC strobe, regardless of whether you have VSYNC delay turned on in your game. So frame buffer really doesn't effect frame rate.

You mentioned "had another 3gb ... card", what I'm not sure of here is whether you mean two SLI'd cards. Of course that's going to process faster but everyone knows that so not sure what you were getting at there :-D .

jj_Sky5000 wrote: The price is the most shocking & they have left the door open as well, with teh lower power consumption!!!! I think i will be adding Keplers to my collection!!!


Amen brotha... Now just time to pick a manufacturer!

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22 Mar 2012 23:00 #24121 by Dreyvas
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EVGA's website seems to be down right now, heh.

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22 Mar 2012 23:07 #24122 by Myndmelt
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Check out this video about it.

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23 Mar 2012 00:09 - 23 Mar 2012 00:10 #24127 by Wingless92
The new Precision and OC Scanner apps from EVGA are looking pretty good. I use OC Scanner all the time to test my cards out.

Anyone else look over on Newegg and see that PNY was trolling and asking $20 more for their cards? I'll take EVGA until they go downhill which I hope will be never.
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23 Mar 2012 00:26 #24130 by Reaper
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Wingless92 wrote: Anyone else look over on Newegg and see that PNY was trolling and asking $20 more for their cards? I'll take EVGA until they go downhill which I hope will be never.


It's actually $30 (right now) ... but yeah I am angling towards picking up an EVGA. Several NewEgg gift cards ready to be used up :-)

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23 Mar 2012 09:53 - 23 Mar 2012 10:13 #24158 by Arxon
Replied by Arxon on topic Re: Nvidia GTX 680 Kepler
Sadly this card isn't much better than a 7970. Wait till ATi/AMD come out with the 7990.

"AMD is expected to release its flagship dual-GPU graphics card based on the "Tahiti" platform in 2012. We are learning under the codename "New Zealand", AMD is working on the monster HD 7990, which will utilize two HD 7970's and 6GB of total graphics memory (3 GB per GPU system). If AMD will indeed go for the HD 7970, this could mean that the card will include 62 compute units for a total of 4096 stream processors, 256 texture units and 64 full color ROPs."
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23 Mar 2012 10:32 #24159 by garfi3ld
Replied by garfi3ld on topic Re: Nvidia GTX 680 Kepler
Arxon you have to remember two things. A two GPU card isn't "topping" Nvidia, they can do the same thing. Second, not being "much" better is still a large gap considering the price difference right at launch.

This isn't coming from someone with any bias, I gave two awards to AMD cards this week even.

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23 Mar 2012 10:37 #24160 by garfi3ld
Replied by garfi3ld on topic Re: Nvidia GTX 680 Kepler
Also I think the Nvidia drivers, although much more mature and stable than what AMD launched with, still have a lot of room for improvement with ingame performance. 3DMark shows that the card is capable of. I wouldn't be shocked if we saw major improvements in some games by the time we get around to cards like the GTX 670 or 660.

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23 Mar 2012 10:56 - 23 Mar 2012 11:04 #24161 by Arxon
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I didn't realize the 7990 had to gpus when i made the first comment then i read about it. As for price from what I see $50 cheaper but the ATI has more stream processors faster ram but a 8ghz slower core on stock models. Not much of a gain for 50 but i wouldn't have to buy a second one for triple monitors. Unless Nvidia changed that.(just watched that video and at the end they did change it to where you only need one card.)
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23 Mar 2012 11:02 #24162 by garfi3ld
Replied by garfi3ld on topic Re: Nvidia GTX 680 Kepler
Nvidia changed that.. And I Wouldn't pay the same price let alone more for a GPU that is slower. No matter how many stream processors it has. :-P

We will have to revisit everyone once the dust settles

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23 Mar 2012 11:05 #24163 by Arxon
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Yeah, I wanna see the 690 now to see if it is gonna be like the 7990 with dual 680s

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23 Mar 2012 18:14 - 23 Mar 2012 18:22 #24173 by THUMPer
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Wheres the GPU Compute performance? After all, Nvidia created the GPGPU market and CUDA programming environment. NV can tweak their drivers for games and benchmarks, that's obvious, but they shat where they sleep.
AMD needs to bring their prices down or they won't sell anything. I would like to see more info on the gpu boost.
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23 Mar 2012 18:18 #24175 by Wingless92
I'm liking the new card. Is it going to make me run out and buy 3 new cards? Na, i'll just buy another 580, run tri-SLi and be set for a long time.

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23 Mar 2012 18:35 #24176 by THUMPer

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23 Mar 2012 18:48 #24179 by L0rdG1gabyt3

THUMPer wrote: Wheres the GPU Compute performance? After all, Nvidia created the GPGPU market and CUDA programming environment. NV can tweak their drivers for games and benchmarks, that's obvious, but they shat where they sleep.
AMD needs to bring their prices down or they won't sell anything. I would like to see more info on the gpu boost.

According to the live stream over at pcper yesterday.... the nvidia rep said that the compute performance is going to be more focused on the Quattro line as a way to differentiate the two lines of cards. Its sad.

On another note.... the 680s seem to scale pretty well!

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23 Mar 2012 19:13 #24183 by THUMPer
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L0rdG1gabyt3 wrote: According to the live stream over at pcper yesterday.... the nvidia rep said that the compute performance is going to be more focused on the Quattro line as a way to differentiate the two lines of cards. Its sad.

Yeah, they really crippled the 680 to force people to buy there $1200 card. AMD looks good for compute if that's what you want to do.
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23 Mar 2012 19:20 #24184 by L0rdG1gabyt3
From what I hear, it does have enough compute power to still help when using Adobe CS5+ or other video editing software like Sony Vegas.

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02 Apr 2012 19:57 #24437 by Shin0bi272
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Did anyone else notice that the furmark burn-in scores are basically whacked out? 7970 black OC edition scores higher than the 680 even though it got lower fps and higher temps. Maybe furmark is just biased towards amd

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02 Apr 2012 20:06 #24438 by Nacelle
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It's because of the auto-overclock in the 680. If thermals are low, it will move the clock speed up. Since Furmark is intended to peg a GPU and make it hot, the overclock doesn't happen much, if at all.

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