Case Mod Contest Voting Warning

im staying legit....

And thank you guys for putting this on, I know a few months ago, i was ssnappy about the postponment for 60 days, but all and all,, kudos to you guys for keeping it fair, and showing you do want this to succeed... Go Browns!!!!

the whole voting system is bs. I had 6 votes, and after I voted for myself today I'm at 4! wtf is that? like I'm trying to game the system with my measly 6 votes when the leaders have almost 70

my wife voted for me from her computer on the same network (she shares my wireless connection) could that have been the problem?

I believe claptrap had around 20 votes removed on day 2, im not sure if I had any, not that im aware of .. but no votes were removed yesterday from anyone, so not sure whats going on ..

I spoke with Wes.
I approve of his removal of the votes. He did the right thing!

I've lost in contests like this in the past because of odd votes.
So The Admin supervision here is a good thing!


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If you do "Game" the system, that is just sad! I have voted twice so far. Need to vote for one last rig and i'm done.

People that cheat will get the ban hammer.

well i hope he keeps a close eye on it, i didnt recieve any messages about any removed votes (yet) so it seems like maybe the systems is being gamed, im having fun though and its a fun contest, i certainly enjoy seeing all the inovation and creation from JJ and some of the other guys....Cheaters dont stop they just go to plan B

You right there are ways to game any system.

In fact I think I just noticed one today.
But I also think that the admin staff already know about it.
And I don't plan on using it...or even testing it.

This thing is just too close
I keep seeing JJ pull up !! it's still anyone's to win!

I don't know about ANYONE'S game...seeing how the majority of us are WELL over 100 votes behind lol

i think its fair to say Billy u had 20 votes removed, u already know how to game the system. or know someon that does, in which case they arent realy going to doit without talking to you first.,,, most of us ask our friends to login so they do, they wouldnt have a clue how cheat. but to say billy u had 20 votes removed and just today relize how to cheat, is kind of funny, u knew 2 days ago. ..

CrazyBillyBob wrote: You right there are ways to game any system.

In fact I think I just noticed one today.
But I also think that the admin staff already know about it.
And I don't plan on using it...or even testing it.

This thing is just too close
I keep seeing JJ pull up !! it's still anyone's to win!

i just need another 80+ votes and i am right there. i cant even buy votes lol

i just need another 80+ votes and i am right there. i cant even buy votes lol

im promising cake at the end !!

LeatherFace wrote: im promising cake at the end !!

The cake is a lie!!!

LeatherFace wrote: i think its fair to say Billy u had 20 votes removed, u already know how to game the system. or know someon that does, in which case they arent realy going to doit without talking to you first.,,, most of us ask our friends to login so they do, they wouldnt have a clue how cheat. but to say billy u had 20 votes removed and just today relize how to cheat, is kind of funny, u knew 2 days ago. ..

Leather.... I'm not sure how to take this. .... So I'll be polite ...
I've done a little advertising about the contest... Not much, mostly word of mouth.

As for the rest of your post....

Enough said!

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jj_Sky5000 wrote: i just need another 80+ votes and i am right there. i cant even buy votes lol

If anyone can pull down that many Votes you can
Like I said before...It's a really good MOD!

I may be gaming the system, because i thought my ability to vote reset at midnight, so you could vote at 11:59 pm day 1 and then 6:00 am day 2 and then you couldn't vote again until day 3 at 12:01 am. (1 vote per day)
So i was voting whenever it let me, not really keeping track of when the last time i voted was and making sure 24 hours had passed...
I know at one point i voted from home a 8 pm, then came into work the next day and voted again at 8 am becuase i knew i wasn't going to be able to get on my PC at home. So it was 2 votes in 2 days, but they both may have happened with-in the same 24 hour period.
If i was cheating, i didn't intend to and i hope Garfi3ld can research and make sure i'm being legal...
Sorry

That one of the loop holes easly found. I had a hard time not voting when i got to work. Mutiple ips same login or mutiple logins same ip. but its all logged, and the admin can easly delete the duplicate ip or logins.

The loophole I bumped into today had to deal with way different browsers handle
the voting site. I normally run FF today I happened to be troubleshooting an IE issue and bumped into it. I was curious so I came back to the site with Chrome.

Dave,
I'm sure that some other folks have done the same thing.

cookies.... Browsers dont share cookies, if you goto the site and it doesnt see the cookie , it doesnt think u have voted and allows u to vote over and oover and over and over and over as long as it has to upload a cookie, like maybe even 20 times, thats why different browsers allow u to vote each seperatly.

back to my earlier comment...

For the amount and value of the prizes being given away, it's a shame there wasn't more thought put into the voting and vote tallying systems.

If it were a few $10 gift cards or the like, it wouldn't be such a big deal. But when you're talking about thousands of dollars in prizes, there's more incentive for people to find loopholes.

I was trying to keep my post vague as not to give anyone any new ideas

And like I said I just figured this out today.

I'm certain I've only voted once a day. I'll be honest and say like Dave I may have not been 24 hours apart every time but there has only been one vote per day.
I'm ok if my vote that may not have been 24 hrs apart got dropped.

I think that the process is even...


If you would like to talk with me privately about anything I'm all for it.

but lets get off the "20" kick.

im was just messing with ya lol..... if we dont kill garfi3ld from headaches or heart explosion and get to this is again sometime, i say maybe make the numbers private to only the staff until the end. their is another issue with swaying votes to, its more of a popularity contest then anything, its fun, but we are nerds we dont have friends..

yea keeping the votes private till the end isn't a bad idea either. Most of my friends I ran it by didn't vote because they didn't want to sign up for another account they'll never use lol. They said if they didn' thave to sign up they would have done it no problem, but that in itself would lead to way more issues than having to creat an account

Another good way is to get a panel of 5 judges from the Sponsor to rate the cases 1 -12. Who ever has the highest number is the winner. no swaying of votes- no popularity contest. I feel bad for all the modders involved who didnt have the social capilities to attract votes or was caught off guard. Your 100% correct Leatherface it is a populairty contest. It has absolutly nothing to do with the work and creativeness of the mod.

imo u cant pick sponsors to be judges they will be biased towards products, but maybe, the winner becomes a judge in the next competition , make it a requirment to be a judge if u enter and win, im sure modders inc. guys would judge, or darthbeavis from out of the box modding, cpu magazine im sure would judge.. its online so their is no travel, get companys like digital trends magazine to judge.

But i believe the reciepe is for the People to vote... hmmm....

The issue with judges is that they are biased. Some only like "Box" mods.
From scratch mods that are not PC shaped don't do well in some places.
Sometimes they look too closely at the mods and fail to see the forest for the trees.

Peoples choice sometimes can go the other way, blinky lights and wiz bang effects garner votes that should have go to a more thought out and executed mod.
or are an Open popularity contest.

I've yet to be in the "perfect" case mod contest... But I'm sure it's out there (or will be the next time Garfi3ld runs one )

There has to be a balancing point between WOW factor, and technical merit.


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For those that don't know any better this is a GOOD contest. The Admins care, it was publicized, any major changes were announced ahead of time. For the few things that folks don't like about the voting (Technically, or in execution). There are 10's of things (at least) that are Right with it. For this being LanOC.org's first online Case mod contest they are well on their way to having a GREAT if not the best CASE mod contest out there. I just hope we (the contestants) don't screw it up and scare them out of doing another one!

I would definlaty keep the people out of it, because its a becomes a popularty vote. and let a panel decide. its no different than letting The sposnors decide Every body is going to be bias one way or another. a least the sponosors will have a input on your thier free merchidise is going to go why would you not get them involved? if its 5 diffenrt judges from 5 diffenrt companys how will that favor anybody?

garfi3ld wrote: At minimum you could have atleast 5 just from your own votes.

Or 4, depending on how you 24-hour blocks worked out. It it was once per day (i.e. vote at 8pm, then 8am following morning) then yes 5 at least. but the 24-hour thing gets in the way sometimes (i.e. vote @ 8pm, can't vote until 8pm again, get busy that night don't vote, vote next day @8am, etc etc.)