LanOC v7.0 Gaming Discussion and List

i know that Reaper and i would both be for track mania.

( track mania is another good " anyone can pick it up" game for tourneys imho)

Has anyone tried Battlefield Heroes in a lan? is it easy to pickup? install? etc? i know its free.

technobear wrote:

Honestly at this point im tired of UT games.. they're old and dated and playing against you guys that have mastered it years ago seems to be just an exercise in being target practice to someone who knows the exploits and tricks.

But there's something to be said about the occasional old school game. I know there's a couple people that complain about the unfair advantage persistent stats and perks give. UT is about all about FPS skill, not how long you played before hand. Not that I care, I'm just repeating what I've heard.

technobear wrote:

i know that Reaper and i would both be for track mania.

( track mania is another good " anyone can pick it up" game for tourneys imho)

Has anyone tried Battlefield Heroes in a lan? is it easy to pickup? install? etc? i know its free.

I have played many hours in Battlefied Heroes and I can tell you it would not work well within a LAN setting. It uses matchmaking software to determine matches and the only way to play with your friends is to join them via your friends list. You could rent a server but I don't think you could make it private. It would rock with LAN support but I don't see that happening since it is a browser launched game.

Modern Warfare 2 is fine with people who already know each other at LAN parties, but again, it sucks for large lan parties or ones you have to travel for, because if nobody is on your friends list, you have no way to join a game on a lan.

Good to know about Battlefield Heroes, I considered mentioning it but I've never tried it.

I can agree that UT is about FPS ability. Personally, I've gotten tired of Cod4, and I'm not getting MW2 yet. For realistic FPS games, I'd probably go with BFBC2 or CoD2 (since I have it), but the realistic FPS games all kinda become the same in terms of gameplay after awhile. CS:S Gungame was cool, but it just got old quick for me. The genres are becoming watered down somewhat. I was thinking, R6V2 would be awesome no matter what we play, Lersar can vouch with me that it's a blast for even just 2 players. And UT Invasion would be good for free-play, or last-man-standing elimination (if you die, you switch to spectate for good, last alive wins).

For racing, I do like the contact aspect of Flatout. Trackmania is accessible, but is also limited to 8 players I believe. But I would enjoy Grid and Dirt, either or.

For RTS, I agree that hour+ matches kinda suck. I like something faster. DoW tends to be fast, around 20 minutes sometimes for a full win. Yet again, 8 player max. But that is reasonable I suppose, as you could do PvE in tight groups. But I'm not as excited in playing DoW as I used to be.

Edit: added The List to the first post, trying to compose a list of games mentioned that people (even some) seem interested in and would work for LAN. Please feel free to tell me if I missed something, repeat what has been mentioned, or tell if something does not work for Lanning. +1 Draymac for the advice on BF Heroes.

I wish I could make it to LAN v7.0 but I leave in July for a YEAR so I feel weird giving my input since I think I am the biggest advocate for FPS games...

Tiffany wrote:

I wish I could make it to LAN v7.0 but I leave in July for a YEAR so I feel weird giving my input since I think I am the biggest advocate for FPS games...

Have you played any FPS games that haven't been mentioned? Also, Lersar mentioned that map/mode requests would help. Feel free to mention what maps and modes you like for games you like. Or even tournament ideas! Any advice and ideas are helpful, and we have enough time in getting them now to be able to tweak and adjust before the big Lan. We just need to keep this ball rolling, because we are getting some good information. Thank you all for your input so far! (I totally feel like a staff member here)

Nacelle wrote:

But there's something to be said about the occasional old school game. I know there's a couple people that complain about the unfair advantage persistent stats and perks give. UT is about all about FPS skill, not how long you played before hand. Not that I care, I'm just repeating what I've heard.

Totally understood! Its just my opinion that UT winds up being a twitch fest with exploit city going on. ( knowing exactly where to stand that you cant get hit and you can hit them)

And i consider myself to be fair to midland at FPS.....

I also agree about the persistent stats and perks..

So, FEAR? maybe or Serious Sam?

technobear wrote:

So, FEAR? maybe or Serious Sam?

I've been meaning to try out FEAR some. If I remember right, there is a place online where you can get the multiplayer game directly from the developers for free (which is awesome of them for releasing that). I'm also looking at buying the Serious Sam HD games, if they run for me and are any good. Were you referring to the HD or originals? I've never played any of them so I don't know what is better or anything.

Leonresevil2 wrote:

technobear wrote:

So, FEAR? maybe or Serious Sam?

I've been meaning to try out FEAR some. If I remember right, there is a place online where you can get the multiplayer game directly from the developers for free (which is awesome of them for releasing that). I'm also looking at buying the Serious Sam HD games, if they run for me and are any good. Were you referring to the HD or originals? I've never played any of them so I don't know what is better or anything.

I mean the HD version. Apparently they're the same as the original except with support for modern hardware. Watch on Steam they do free weekends all the time maybe you can catch it and try it. I bought it when it was less than $10 on steam.

Here is a list of free FPS games .
www.freemmogamer.com/2008/09/best-free-f...ter-mmofps-list.html

here is FEAR
projectorigin.warnerbros.com/fearcombat/main

There is also Americas Army..
www.americasarmy.com/
though ive not played this one much...

well if you want to do tourney style in COD4 or MW2 the best way to go would be TDM or S&D (my fave). really on either game you can do ANY map. The nice thing with MW2 and COD4 is that you can take off all the perks.. or even just allow certain perks and weapons.. so everyone will be on an even playing field (besides general skill).

Yeah, the pam mod for Cod4 at Stompfest was amazing for that.

Edit: Though they did a free-for-all tournament, which is my specialty.

I played a demo of Serious Sam HD from Steam, and it's interesting, reminds me of Doom and older FPS games like that (makes sense since it's a remake of a 90's FPS), but it's slightly predictable, and they just seem to throw enemies at you constantly by the end. Looked good, but just got annoying after awhile. I will have to give multiplayer a try, but is cooperative the same setup as single player? Or is it different levels?

And I do like CoD4 for TDM, DM, and S&D, good modes to play. A tournament could work for that, with everyone on equal level.

Come on now, there's a points competition, and only 3 new posts here?

I have the original versions of Serious Sam. Deathmatch is pretty fun, but co-op get kinda boring. They throw massive amounts of bad guys at you, so it's fun for a while. The problem is there's no incentive not to die. You just respawn and continue killing everything. You may be thinking, yea, that sounds good. Trust me, only for a little while.

Nacelle wrote:

I have the original versions of Serious Sam. Deathmatch is pretty fun, but co-op get kinda boring. They throw massive amounts of bad guys at you, so it's fun for a while. The problem is there's no incentive not to die. You just respawn and continue killing everything. You may be thinking, yea, that sounds good. Trust me, only for a little while.

I agree. Its fun for a once through in coop.

Ok, good input. It seemed like Serious Sam would just put more enemies in to balance out the more players. But the demo claims (unless I am misreading) 16 person co-op. So that would be an insane amount of players and enemies, and would either be yawningly easy, or extremely hard. Anyway, it's something to consider, not written off the list yet.

Also, I have been reading some posts over realistic games (and the lack of realism therein, lol), and I wondered if anyone paid much attention to Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising? Lersar and I bought it on Steam, but I have yet to play it. The multiplayer is supposed to be bigger and possibly good.

Additionally, I have played FarCry 2 on PS3 and I LOVED the multiplayer in it. The PC requirements are higher, but I think most people here would be able to play it. The game is pretty low-priced these days. Anyone else tried it?

Plague wrote:

My two cent on games.


TF2
COD4 or 5
UT24k or UT3
StarCraft
RedAlert 2 or 3
FlatOut2
The Quakes


those are just the ones I can think off top of my head.

retro tourney.
duck hunt
Mario

What did everyone think about the UT2k4 at v6.0?

And we did get a few matches of MW2 in, I didn't have any problems with lag, how did it run for everyone else?

Also, how much interest do we have for StarCraft II? I'm a pretty big fan of the beta ATM.

I think you should try to stay with games that people can LAN and there will be a large amount of gamers:

Good:
TF2
Flatout2
Cod4
Ut04 - Should try some onslaught games next time
Crysis Wars - Although not enough people seemed interested, or maybe there was a tourney going on at the time?

Too much CSS (always too much at every LAN)

Bad:
DOTA?
BFBC2?
CODMW2?

Could Add:
Serious Sam?
L4D - enough players?
Battlefield 1942/DC/2?
Fear?
Trackmania
GRID
Try a diff RTS? RON?

I'd love to See BFBC2 have LAN support by LanOC V7.0!


I have a hard time endorsing any "internet" only game for a tourney @ a LAN. Maybe I'm old-school but there are too many variables when play online from the same location...(read into this more LAG!)and admin headaches!

But alas all the good new games seem to be moving to this online only model to curb all the pirates, and make the games easier to port from (to) consoles .... Progress

CBB

Oh4sh0 wrote:

I think you should try to stay with games that people can LAN and there will be a large amount of gamers:

Good:
TF2
Flatout2
Cod4
Ut04 - Should try some onslaught games next time
Crysis Wars - Although not enough people seemed interested, or maybe there was a tourney going on at the time?

Too much CSS (always too much at every LAN)

Bad:
DOTA?
BFBC2?
CODMW2?

Could Add:
Serious Sam?
L4D - enough players?
Battlefield 1942/DC/2?
Fear?
Trackmania
GRID
Try a diff RTS? RON?

I agree to an extent, its undeniable that we have a great time with a full server of TF2. But I'm a huge RTS fan, which are typically limited to a smaller amount. I don't want to see them go away.

RON = Rise of Nations? Whats the player cap in it?

I'm also a big fan of L4D, but it has even more restricting player limits than some RTS even at it's max.

I'd be cool with LoL too. Me, Shroud, and Harple have been playin quite a bit of that. Also, we did get a decent amount of ppl playing Crysis Wars. I'd be up for playing that for a tourny or just all-around more of it.

Crisis wars is a good game with LAN support. Plus i think everyone can borrow a copy so there is no excuse not to be in the tourney

Just a thought but for tournies and even big planed games we might want to try to stick to games that people don't have to go out and buy. Of course people are going to buy new games but i feel we could have bigger games if people were able to get it off the server. If anyone thinks of an older-ish game I can try to work my magic and "acquire" a copy of it. but I doubt I will be at th enext LanOC cause I will be working in tennesse over the summer. Also I don't know if anyone out ide of Star, Harple, and I have played it but Command and conquer renegade is a pretty fun fps that is old enough to easily get for free and can lan with only one file of it.

we should consider some of the Free options that are out there. I put a post in the hot deals section, and WIKI has a whole page devoted to free FPS games..

Shroud wrote:

Just a thought but for tournies and even big planed games we might want to try to stick to games that people don't have to go out and buy. Of course people are going to buy new games but i feel we could have bigger games if people were able to get it off the server. If anyone thinks of an older-ish game I can try to work my magic and "acquire" a copy of it. but I doubt I will be at th enext LanOC cause I will be working in tennesse over the summer. Also I don't know if anyone out ide of Star, Harple, and I have played it but Command and conquer renegade is a pretty fun fps that is old enough to easily get for free and can lan with only one file of it.

This is exactly why we really, really were hesitant about doing MW2/BC2 tournaments. Most the games played at the LAN, except TF2 which is $20 and discounted all the time, even to $2.49 at one point, are available. Plus I know both Wes and I have at least one extra steam account with a copy on it each. And I think ultimately we try to look tournaments the same way, which is why we felt UT2004 was a good option for FPS.

The thread Techno created on free games is a good list, too. If most are as good as Wolfenstein Enemy Territory, they're definitely something to consider. It'd be good to see that list developed more too if anyone else knows some. W:ET will be available on the LanOC server too, as well as anything else that we test.

I remember playing a lot of C&C with Shroud, Harple, and Harple's brother Valeron. Those were some really fun times

I would love to check out C&C4, but the DRM keeps turning me off.

Come to think of it a Wolfenstine:ET Tournament would be allot of fun!

It's free, yes it's a bit oldschool but I think it would appeal to both the newer gamers (Come on you guys all play CS!!, and wolf:ET is way newer then that!) and us old guys (being of more nostalgic nature for us).